Yajirobe VS Hercule

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Yajirobe VS Hercule
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 13 2018, 02:39 AM (861 Views)
+ Son-Goku	Jun 13 2018, 06:23 PM Post #16
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Honestly, even further. Goku received a zenkai from his pounding against Tambourine. So Yajirobe should be stronger than the likes of Tien. Edited by Son-Goku, Jun 13 2018, 06:23 PM.
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Notaka	Jun 13 2018, 06:42 PM Post #17
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	StrenuousSpider Jun 13 2018, 02:23 PM Notaka Jun 13 2018, 01:03 PM This is Saiyan Saga Yajirobe, right ? The one that's multiple times stronger than King Piccolo? Yeah, Satan has no way of winning. Hell, I don't think Satan would even make it past the 21st budokai tenkaichi; these dudes are straight up superhuman. Also, surviving against someone doesn't necessarily mean you're on their level. I believe you would be referring to this? Interview with Toriyama Q:How did Mr. Satan train to become stronger? Did he have someone like a martial-arts master…? A:When Mr. Satan was young, he attended a fighting dojo called “Satan Castle”. Through a combination of considerable power and good luck (his rival fighting opponent would get food poisoning, for instance), he quickly became world champion and was called “Mr. Satan” after the name of his dojo. One day, at a bar in South City (where they were on tour), Satan and his martial-arts master made the mistake of making fun of Tao Pai-pai’s hairstyle. His master was killed, and Satan was heavily injured. From then on, Mr. Satan solemnly swore never to fight anyone whose true identity he didn’t know, or anyone who seemed crazy strong. Yeah, they made fun of Tao Pai Pai and paid the price for it. Hercule just happened to survive by luck; nowhere did it say he put up a fight. Like, the whole reason Satan became a world champion is largely because of his good luck. Yajirobe, from when we first saw him, could probably even beat Tao or at least put a decent fight against him. I feel like people domt read things on this forum anymore. Ive already said yajirobe wins. Ive already said i knew nothing of him. Its been awhile since ive seen ball and forgot he was even in it. As for the interview yes it dose not mean he is any were near pai pai but its still impressive he can survive. If i remember correctly it said nothing of getting lucky in that fight. As for the tournament it said he won it through considerable power and luck not just luck. It mentioned that he did not fight people he did not know or looked incredibly strong. Thats not necessarily a he did not fight anyone strong. As we know in the franchise looks mean nothing. Again not sayaing he is yajirobe or tai pai pai level just not as weak as people have made him out to be. As for the topic yes again i agree with you guys on who would win and at this point you guys are just beating a dead horse. Let the topic die. I was talking about your point of "Satan survived Tao Pai Pai so he must be strong" being moot. And next time, you should know both characters if you're going to make them fight against each other.
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StrenuousSpider	Jun 14 2018, 12:05 AM Post #18
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Notaka Jun 13 2018, 06:42 PM StrenuousSpider Jun 13 2018, 02:23 PM Notaka Jun 13 2018, 01:03 PM This is Saiyan Saga Yajirobe, right ? The one that's multiple times stronger than King Piccolo? Yeah, Satan has no way of winning. Hell, I don't think Satan would even make it past the 21st budokai tenkaichi; these dudes are straight up superhuman. Also, surviving against someone doesn't necessarily mean you're on their level. I believe you would be referring to this? Interview with Toriyama Q:How did Mr. Satan train to become stronger? Did he have someone like a martial-arts master…? A:When Mr. Satan was young, he attended a fighting dojo called “Satan Castle”. Through a combination of considerable power and good luck (his rival fighting opponent would get food poisoning, for instance), he quickly became world champion and was called “Mr. Satan” after the name of his dojo. One day, at a bar in South City (where they were on tour), Satan and his martial-arts master made the mistake of making fun of Tao Pai-pai’s hairstyle. His master was killed, and Satan was heavily injured. From then on, Mr. Satan solemnly swore never to fight anyone whose true identity he didn’t know, or anyone who seemed crazy strong. Yeah, they made fun of Tao Pai Pai and paid the price for it. Hercule just happened to survive by luck; nowhere did it say he put up a fight. Like, the whole reason Satan became a world champion is largely because of his good luck. Yajirobe, from when we first saw him, could probably even beat Tao or at least put a decent fight against him. I feel like people domt read things on this forum anymore. Ive already said yajirobe wins. Ive already said i knew nothing of him. Its been awhile since ive seen ball and forgot he was even in it. As for the interview yes it dose not mean he is any were near pai pai but its still impressive he can survive. If i remember correctly it said nothing of getting lucky in that fight. As for the tournament it said he won it through considerable power and luck not just luck. It mentioned that he did not fight people he did not know or looked incredibly strong. Thats not necessarily a he did not fight anyone strong. As we know in the franchise looks mean nothing. Again not sayaing he is yajirobe or tai pai pai level just not as weak as people have made him out to be. As for the topic yes again i agree with you guys on who would win and at this point you guys are just beating a dead horse. Let the topic die. I was talking about your point of "Satan survived Tao Pai Pai so he must be strong" being moot. And next time, you should know both characters if you're going to make them fight against each other. Never once said it made him strong as or close to pai just that it is a feat none the less. And that he is not as weak as people make him out to be. No disrespect here but ill make a topic if i want. In fact within topics ive made in past or topic others have made ive learned things i did not know before from statements to feats. And ive done the same for others. Most notable being Stuff about M12. So i simple forgot about a character of a show i watched 10 years ago so cut me some slack. Also if it was really that important to me of who was stronger id done a little refresher. But as ive used this forum before the info you guys give is typically more accurate and faster.



Notaka	Jun 14 2018, 12:42 AM Post #19
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Nobody is saying he's weak. We all acknowledge he's strong and he'd beat all of us if he were to exist. But he's one of the weakest DB characters; He's a peak human in a world where Superhuman beings run rampant. Also forgetting is a human nature, but it doesn't make for a valid excuse. If that was the case, I could very well go and make "King Chappa vs Cui" , and then say I forgot how strong they were. I can't speak for the others, but I go and try to refresh some of my memories if I'm putting two characters I forgot about before posting a new thread. And maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't choose to make a VS topic to remember how strong a character is; I'd use them for entertainment, see others point of views and to know who could win in a battle between characters. Anyways, I don't think this is the right place to be debating about this. I've given my opinion so I'm done with this topic. Edited by Notaka, Jun 14 2018, 12:44 AM.
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StrenuousSpider	Jun 14 2018, 01:17 AM Post #20
Posts: 2,085 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Notaka Jun 14 2018, 12:42 AM Nobody is saying he's weak. We all acknowledge he's strong and he'd beat all of us if he were to exist. But he's one of the weakest DB characters; He's a peak human in a world where Superhuman beings run rampant. Also forgetting is a human nature, but it doesn't make for a valid excuse. If that was the case, I could very well go and make "King Chappa vs Cui" , and then say I forgot how strong they were. I can't speak for the others, but I go and try to refresh some of my memories if I'm putting two characters I forgot about before posting a new thread. And maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't choose to make a VS topic to remember how strong a character is; I'd use them for entertainment, see others point of views and to know who could win in a battle between characters. Anyways, I don't think this is the right place to be debating about this. I've given my opinion so I'm done with this topic. You think that go ahead. Ive made many topics were one character had a feat or statement that puts them lot stronger. Dose that make the initial topic bad no. What about the people that make GT vs Super topics just to later find out super is stronger are those bad because someone forgets something about said movie or arc no and its quite pretentious to think other wise. I never said i make VS topics for learning something i tend to use dbz discussion section to ask for quote and such. But if it so happens to turn out that way so be it. Like in this case. Also if you want to make that thread go right ahead its no different from many topics that turn out one sided because of ones ignorance in this case my own. Just look at the super janamba vs buuhan it completely one sided in janambas favor due to one statement which ive seen over looked on this site for years. On the surface it seems like a close match but one thing left forgotten changes the fight completely. Or the few things said in buu saga that imply potara is not superior to dance that are forgotten. As for the hurcule strength thing comes from is a history of how his character is treated. Being stronger then IRL people is irrelevant a normal human in dbz is stronger then a IRL human. But if you are finished with this conversation then so be it.



+ Emmeth	Jun 14 2018, 07:26 AM Post #21
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	For the record, I have Yajirobe at around 20,000 by the time the Android Saga rolls around. In the Saiyan arc he's around 1000.
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Dougla$	Jun 14 2018, 03:01 PM Post #22
Posts: 511 Group: Member Member #6,899 Joined: October 23, 2011	Hercule survived being hit by Cell. He clears the Saiyan Arc imo. Just trolling. Though strong for a normal human, he's no match for Goku at the beginning of DB, so he's definitely not touching Yajirobe. In the Anime, there was a scene where a tree fell on top of his head, and it didn't phase him (right after they trained for the Saiyans).
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Darker	Jun 15 2018, 08:12 AM Post #23
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,358 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Son-Goku Jun 13 2018, 06:23 PM Honestly, even further. Goku received a zenkai from his pounding against Tambourine. So Yajirobe should be stronger than the likes of Tien. He did? I could believe it after King Piccolo nearly killed him in their first fight, not sure with Tambourine...
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+ Son-Goku	Jun 15 2018, 06:16 PM Post #24
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Darker Jun 15 2018, 08:12 AM Son-Goku Jun 13 2018, 06:23 PM Honestly, even further. Goku received a zenkai from his pounding against Tambourine. So Yajirobe should be stronger than the likes of Tien. He did? I could believe it after King Piccolo nearly killed him in their first fight, not sure with Tambourine... Why wouldn't he? He was beaten down pretty badly and he had just finished a fight against Tien. Edited by Son-Goku, Jun 15 2018, 06:18 PM.
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+ Emmeth	Jun 15 2018, 06:50 PM Post #25
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Zenkais werent a thing until the Freeza arc. Although Roshi and Krillin did comment that Goku always came out stronger after losing a tough fight.
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Darker	Jun 16 2018, 06:07 AM Post #26
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,358 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Son-Goku Jun 15 2018, 06:16 PM Darker Jun 15 2018, 08:12 AM Son-Goku Jun 13 2018, 06:23 PM Honestly, even further. Goku received a zenkai from his pounding against Tambourine. So Yajirobe should be stronger than the likes of Tien. He did? I could believe it after King Piccolo nearly killed him in their first fight, not sure with Tambourine... Why wouldn't he? He was beaten down pretty badly and he had just finished a fight against Tien. It's after near death situations, not after losing every fight or getting beaten up. Tambourine didn't beat him up that badly, he was still able to get back up and walk away.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


+ Son-Goku	Jun 16 2018, 09:02 PM Post #27
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Darker Jun 16 2018, 06:07 AM Son-Goku Jun 15 2018, 06:16 PM Darker Jun 15 2018, 08:12 AM Son-Goku Jun 13 2018, 06:23 PM Honestly, even further. Goku received a zenkai from his pounding against Tambourine. So Yajirobe should be stronger than the likes of Tien. He did? I could believe it after King Piccolo nearly killed him in their first fight, not sure with Tambourine... Why wouldn't he? He was beaten down pretty badly and he had just finished a fight against Tien. It's after near death situations, not after losing every fight or getting beaten up. Tambourine didn't beat him up that badly, he was still able to get back up and walk away. It's not just near-death. It's the closer you come to death and back again, the more powerful you become.
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Muyasuki	Jun 17 2018, 06:33 AM Post #28
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	Darker Jun 16 2018, 06:07 AM Son-Goku Jun 15 2018, 06:16 PM Darker Jun 15 2018, 08:12 AM Son-Goku Jun 13 2018, 06:23 PM Honestly, even further. Goku received a zenkai from his pounding against Tambourine. So Yajirobe should be stronger than the likes of Tien. He did? I could believe it after King Piccolo nearly killed him in their first fight, not sure with Tambourine... Why wouldn't he? He was beaten down pretty badly and he had just finished a fight against Tien. It's after near death situations, not after losing every fight or getting beaten up. Tambourine didn't beat him up that badly, he was still able to get back up and walk away. The Tamborine fight wasn't really that. The first time they fought; it was RIGHT after the tourney. All the fighters were pretty worn out. By the second time they fought; Goku was refreshed. Zenkais explicitly did not exist until the Frieza arc and even then; that was mainly a plot addition to deal with the rapidly increasing power levels. While Krillin is used to retroactively apply this to Dragonball when Zenkais are introduced; each time Goku suffered a major defeat; he usually underwent some sort of training relatively soon after that allowed him to increase in power (such as losing to Tao, climbing Korin's tower and subsequently beating Tao in their rematch).



Darker	Jun 17 2018, 01:23 PM Post #29
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,358 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Son-Goku Jun 16 2018, 09:02 PM Darker Jun 16 2018, 06:07 AM Son-Goku Jun 15 2018, 06:16 PM Darker Jun 15 2018, 08:12 AM Son-Goku Jun 13 2018, 06:23 PM Honestly, even further. Goku received a zenkai from his pounding against Tambourine. So Yajirobe should be stronger than the likes of Tien. He did? I could believe it after King Piccolo nearly killed him in their first fight, not sure with Tambourine... Why wouldn't he? He was beaten down pretty badly and he had just finished a fight against Tien. It's after near death situations, not after losing every fight or getting beaten up. Tambourine didn't beat him up that badly, he was still able to get back up and walk away. It's not just near-death. It's the closer you come to death and back again, the more powerful you become. Yeah, what I said. And the beating Tambourine gave him wasn't that bad. Tired or not, Goku didn't get back up as if he'd nearly died.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


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